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Welcome to SmartBug on Tap—your go-to podcast for actionable marketing insights, thought leadership, and expert strategies to elevate your brand’s success. Hosted by the team at SmartBug Media, each episode features engaging conversations with industry leaders and SmartBug experts, tackling topics from creative alignment and strategic planning to leveraging tools like HubSpot for enterprise success.
Whether you’re a marketing leader, a strategist, or a HubSpot power user, this podcast delivers practical advice you can apply right away. Tune in for stories of innovation, best practices, and SmartBug’s unique approach to solving complex marketing challenges—served straight from the source.
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Is It Time to Fire Your ATS? What HubSpot Can—and Can’t—Do for Staffing Firms
18 min 57 sec
In staffing, your applicant tracking system (ATS) may feel like both a lifeline and a limitation. It’s great at storing resumes and ensuring compliance—but does it actually help you nurture candidates, align with marketing, or forecast sales?
In this episode, host Alexandra Whitmore is joined by Abigail Allen, SVP of Sales at SmartBug, to tackle the big question: Is it time to fire your ATS?
Together, they explore:
🤝 The core differences between an ATS and a CRM like HubSpot
🔄 Why staffing firms get stuck in reactive “post and pray” recruiting
📧 How HubSpot transforms candidate engagement with automation + personalization
📊 The reporting and forecasting visibility your ATS can’t provide
🚦 Signs it’s time to integrate—or replace—your ATS altogether
Key Highlights
[01:42] What an ATS does vs. what a CRM like HubSpot does
[02:30] Why staffing firms feel limited by their ATS
[06:27] The risks of forcing an ATS to act like a CRM (and vice versa)
[09:21] How HubSpot creates a better candidate experience
[11:15] Nurturing workflows staffing firms can build in HubSpot
[12:56] Reporting and visibility HubSpot offers that ATS platforms lack
[14:12] When to integrate your ATS vs. when to replace it
[15:46] What a healthy ATS + CRM ecosystem looks like
[17:06] How SmartBug helps staffing firms evaluate and optimize their tech stack
📩 Contact Us
If your ATS feels more like a roadblock than a resource, SmartBug can help. Schedule a consult: https://www.smartbugmedia.com/contact-us
Talk to Alexandra: awhitmore@smartbugmedia.com
Talk to Abigail: aallen@smartbugmedia.comPlay episode
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Double Funnel, Double Trouble: Solving for Candidates and Clients in One CRM
19 min 40 sec
Managing both candidates and clients in one CRM can feel impossible, but it doesn’t have to be. In this episode of SmartBug on Tap, host Alexandra Whitmore (VP of Sales at SmartBug) sits down with Sandy Moore (Senior Director of Account Strategy at SmartBug) to unpack why staffing firms struggle with “double funnel” operations and how HubSpot helps solve the chaos.
You’ll learn:
✅ What the “double funnel” is and why it causes friction
✅ Common CRM mistakes staffing firms make with candidates vs. clients
✅ How legacy CRMs fall short in supporting both sides of the staffing equation
✅ Ways to structure HubSpot pipelines, objects, and dashboards for clarity
✅ Quick wins staffing leaders can implement this week
✅ Long-term shifts to prevent double funnel burnout
If your CRM feels more like a data graveyard than a growth engine, it’s time for a reset. SmartBug has helped staffing firms of all sizes optimize HubSpot for recruiting and sales success—let’s do the same for you.
Key Highlights:
[02:10] What the “double funnel” is and why it creates friction for staffing firms
[03:35] Common CRM mistakes when managing candidates and clients together
[05:16] Why legacy CRMs often fail to support both funnels
[07:26] How to design HubSpot pipelines for client acquisition and candidate placement
[08:12] Best practices for keeping both funnels clean, connected, and collaborative
[10:50] How recruiters, sales, and marketers can work in the same CRM without overlap
[12:43] ATS vs. HubSpot: when to integrate and when to replace
[14:20] Quick win: auditing your CRM to boost adoption and performance
[15:26] Long-term fix: stopping duplicated efforts across teams
[16:20] How SmartBug helps staffing firms optimize HubSpot for double funnels
👉 Alexandra: awhitmore@smartbugmedia.com
👉 Sandy: smoore@smartbugmedia.com
👉 Connect with our team here: https://www.smartbugmedia.com/contact-usPlay episode
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What Staffing Firms Get Wrong About CRM Strategy
38 min 56 sec
In this episode of SmartBug on Tap, I, Alexandra Whitmore, delve into the common pitfalls staffing firms encounter with their CRM strategies. Joined by Casey Pedicord, our Senior Director of Channel Sales, we explore issues such as poor adoption, messy data, and ineffective recruiter handoffs that can hinder growth. Casey shares insights on how to transform a CRM from a mere record-keeping tool into a powerful revenue driver. We discuss the importance of executive buy-in, optimizing workflows, and leveraging automation to improve efficiency. If your CRM feels more like a burden than a benefit, this episode provides actionable strategies to reset your approach and unlock your firm's potential for growth. Tune in to discover how to make your CRM a true growth engine.Play episode
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Second Brain Systems: How to Set Up Custom GPTs and Gems for Your Marketing Team
37 min 24 sec
We’re diving into the concept of second brain systems—how to use custom GPTs (in ChatGPT) and Gems (in Gemini) to scale your marketing team’s productivity, eliminate repetitive tasks, and streamline onboarding, content creation, paid media, and more.
You’ll learn:
✅ What a second brain is (and why marketers need one)
✅ How to build your own custom GPT or Gem
✅ What to feed your second brain to get great outputs
✅ Real SmartBug use cases
✅ Tips for maintenance, security, and future-proofing your setup
Whether you're new to AI or a seasoned power user, you'll walk away with actionable tips to make AI work for your team—without replacing the human magic that makes your marketing shine.
⏱️ Key Highlights:
00:00 – Intro: Why second brains are changing how marketers work
03:10 – What is a second brain in marketing and AI?
05:00 – ChatGPT vs. Gemini: What makes a “second brain” different from on-the-fly prompting
07:50 – Eliminating information silos and dusty data
10:55 – ⚠️ AI Safety Disclaimer
11:00 – Step-by-step: How to build a custom Gem (Gemini)
14:15 – How to program user experiences into your Gem
16:00 – What kinds of data to include in your second brain
18:55 – How technical do you need to be? (Spoiler: Not at all!)
20:25 – SmartBug example: SME interview prep GPT
22:40 – Fun side note: Naming your GPTs
24:30 – Where second brains save time and increase quality
29:30 – Use cases beyond content: Paid media, reporting, onboarding
30:30 – What not to offload to AI
31:15 – Best practices and maintenance tips
34:50 – Who should “own” a shared Gem or GPT on your team?
36:40 – Common mistakes to avoid
38:00 – What’s next for second brain systems
40:15 – Skills marketers should start building now
42:55 – Final thoughts: Adding human connection back in
🔗 Want to connect or build your own second brain system?
Reach out to Julia (jbye@smartbugmedia.com) or Rebecca (rcorgan@smartbugmedia.com) to chat.Play episode
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The Enterprise Attribution Problem: What’s Working, What’s Not, and What to Do About It
21 min 10 sec
Welcome back to SmartBug on Tap, where we dig into smarter, more scalable HubSpot strategy for marketing, sales, and RevOps teams.
In this episode, Casey Peddicord sits down with Sandy Moore, SmartBug’s Senior Director of Account Strategy, to unpack one of the most complex—and misunderstood—topics in enterprise marketing: attribution.
Whether you’re battling siloed data, long sales cycles, or disconnected touchpoints, attribution reporting can feel impossible to get right. But it can work—and Sandy’s here to show you how. From model selection to executive dashboards to AI’s evolving impact on reporting, this is a must-listen for anyone working in enterprise RevOps or marketing operations.
🔍 We cover:
Why attribution is so painful for enterprise orgs
Which attribution models actually work in complex buying cycles
How to simplify your reporting (without dumbing it down)
The real impact of privacy changes and AI on multi-touch tracking
Why “perfect attribution” doesn’t exist—and what to focus on instead
🔗 Connect with Sandy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandragallucci/
📩 Questions for the show? Reach out to Casey at cpeddicord@smartbugmedia.comPlay episode
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